tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490676943414191920.post6154753204802197645..comments2024-03-16T07:53:29.941+00:00Comments on Mysses Lafunky's Faith Blog: Helping the Poor. Must I help the Poor?Mysses Lafunkyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07860573756184786018noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490676943414191920.post-70758858675636362302013-12-22T08:39:45.279+00:002013-12-22T08:39:45.279+00:00Ruth, I was reading Open Heavens Devotional this m...Ruth, I was reading Open Heavens Devotional this morning by Pastor Enoch Adeboye. He made reference to being led before giving. He linked it to the Parable of the Sower (Matthew 13:3-8). He said if God says you should not give to a particular individual and you disobey thinking you know more than God, or you know how much the fellow is in need, you have acted in disobedience and lost both seed and harvest. If care is not taken, we may even get punished.<br /><br />Pastor Adeboye said sowing a bad soil is a soil that God does not want you to sow into at that material time, no matter how logical or pressing the need is.<br /><br />Finally, he said we must ask to be led of God before we sow.<br /><br />Those that are led by the Spirit of God are called the children of God.Mysses Lafunkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07860573756184786018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490676943414191920.post-37266811400087128202013-12-22T08:38:28.886+00:002013-12-22T08:38:28.886+00:00Busola, I was reading Open Heavens Devotional this...Busola, I was reading Open Heavens Devotional this morning by Pastor Enoch Adeboye. He made reference to being led before giving. He linked it to the Parable of the Sower (Matthew 13:3-8). He said if God says you should not give to a particular individual and you disobey thinking you know more than God, or you know how much the fellow is in need, you have acted in disobedience and lost both seed and harvest. If care is not taken, we may even get punished.<br /><br />Pastor Adeboye said sowing a bad soil is a soil that God does not want you to sow into at that material time, no matter how logical or pressing the need is.<br /><br />Finally, he said we must ask to be led of God before we sow into causes that are not clear to us.Mysses Lafunkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07860573756184786018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490676943414191920.post-50756544608721146072013-12-08T22:40:09.864+00:002013-12-08T22:40:09.864+00:00Thank you Ruth for your comment.
Key points from y...Thank you Ruth for your comment.<br />Key points from your post: To do our part when it comes to giving = To give.<br /><br />To use wisdom (application of the knowledge that we have/through God's Word and experiences).<br /><br />Your mum is so right. I don't borrow too neither do I lend out. The Bible says that WE SHOULD OWE NO MAN ANYTHING. My Pastor once said that, if you refuse to pay for someone you owe, it is a SIN..and sins make our prayers to be delayed/hindered and affect us from going to heaven. <br /><br />Therefore, I avoid borrowing. Mysses Lafunkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07860573756184786018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490676943414191920.post-4989798073867083522013-12-08T22:34:04.186+00:002013-12-08T22:34:04.186+00:00Thank you Busola. Sorry for my late response. It ...Thank you Busola. Sorry for my late response. It is certainly not a long epistle. A lot to learn from your comment. <br /><br />I agree that we can ask the Holy Spirit to help us discern and to know who is truly needs our help.<br /><br />But in the case of someone using the money to feed their drug addiction, I still believe that we can ask God if we should give such individual money.<br /><br />I'm aware that through helping others, we may entertain Angels (Hebrews 13:2).<br /><br />I guess our giving should not be because we want to receive, rather because we want to share the love of God through giving and show what God would do..since we are God's ambassadors. <br /><br />Thank you for your comment.Mysses Lafunkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07860573756184786018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490676943414191920.post-84707463358822323812013-12-05T22:13:55.409+00:002013-12-05T22:13:55.409+00:00My opinion.
Did the bible say we need to be led to...My opinion.<br />Did the bible say we need to be led to give? Its says to give. If you want to pray, up to you. lets not play religion. I think the instruction is we should try and give when ever we are capable of doing it. Do we ask God to lead us whether we eat, when we want to dress, pay offering, pay tithes etc? The bible says something and we still want to wait for leading? you will wait for a while.<br /><br />again, why do we have to now go and pray over giving someone a few pounds or naira. To me, that is playing religion.<br /><br />People are on different levels of God and grouping every christian under the umbrella of be led to give is quite broad. Some christians dont pray or read their bible until its sunday, how do you then expect them to be led to give. That is just an excuse not to give, i think. <br />My school of thoughts is, if we have a personal relationship with God, then everything we do will be directed by him. You find yourself doing things without consciously thinking about it, as it becomes part of you. That is my definition of being led.<br />Your entire being has been given over to God, so everything you do is spirit led-including giving. How do i develop this, you pray, study God's word, pray, study God words....<br /><br />dont get me wrong, if you have an heavy heart about a particular giving, then pray about it. or if this is like a large sum of money, which means a lot, then pray about it, or do you want to tie it to a blessing you are waiting for, then pray<br /><br />fair enough some people may not be truthful, that is between them and God, you have done your part. You dont even know whether God has an agenda in mind (even though he know their hearts), lets not play God. just do the best you can. like i says, if you have an heavy heart about it, then pray<br /> in conclusion,<br />1. be smart when the situation arises. use wisdom. e.g. if something does not add up and look suspicious like what happened to you Funke, then for that particular situation you walk away and dont give. also be careful of "users". keep your distance..... well except you feel God wants you to still give<br />2. always listen to God if/when he speaks to you-either to go ahead or not<br />3. for giving, there are in different levels: giving to beggers, family asking for help, church donations etc. They are different and so will be dealt differently. <br />4. I try not to lend people money, I give them money. My mum says if someone asks you to borrow, just give them what you are willing to let go off-very good advicetenpointsreviewshttp://www.tenpointsreviews.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490676943414191920.post-65225873069179915622013-12-03T20:59:13.737+00:002013-12-03T20:59:13.737+00:00I was once in a Bible Study and this topic was add...I was once in a Bible Study and this topic was addressed. Most people were of the opinion that all giving had to be led so as not to sow on the wrong soil. <br /><br />However, I do have a little thing against that school of thought. In the new testament as well as the old testament, I haven't come across a passage that says we should only give when the Spirit leads however I know as Spirit-filled believers we should always be Spirit led. But if I see anyone in need, or there is any fundraising activity that would clearly be meeting the poor's need then I believe that we should sow in such grounds. <br /><br />Remember the case of Cornelius, he wasn't even a believer yet, but his giving went up to God as a memorial. <br /><br />People saying you must check the ground before sowing clearly shows that we are only giving because of the motive of receiving (maybe not in all cases). <br /><br />I believe that if your money or gift shouldn't be going to someone at a particular time that is when you get a check in your spirit. <br /><br />On the issue of knowing those that are genuinely poor, I would say we can ask the Holy Spirit to help us discern and be on the look out for opportunities to truly help those in need. <br /><br />(Sorry for the long epistle) Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com